heckyesdragonage:

I’m not homophobic in the slightest bit, but I can’t help but agree with this.

YES YOU ARE
or at least completely ignorant of social situations not your immediate own and/or completely incapable of imagining societies where what is considered sexual ‘deviance’ in our world is the norm in that world and thus not subject to repressive stigmas
i know like five straight people okay, that is what i am saying here
oh my god am i suddenly back on bsn

heckyesdragonage:

I’m not homophobic in the slightest bit, but I can’t help but agree with this.

YES YOU ARE

or at least completely ignorant of social situations not your immediate own and/or completely incapable of imagining societies where what is considered sexual ‘deviance’ in our world is the norm in that world and thus not subject to repressive stigmas

i know like five straight people okay, that is what i am saying here

oh my god am i suddenly back on bsn

(via heckyesgaming)

b-mommy:

ademska:

b-mommy:
“You’re not your warden”
NO YOU’RE WRONG!!!!!! D,: 

i’m never wrong about anything ever

We went back and changed it right before we saw this. You have some kind of filthy witch powers. 

i’m a dirty witch and i need to be punished
lol no i mean i get that some people really dig the more personal aspect, and i can see that, but what made da2 so amazing to me was a multitude of things like its rich characterization of companions and their interactions with each other, the the more structured narrative, the family ties, the tragic anders romance, the subtlety of the political circumstances in how they relate to hawke, hawke’s overall lack of agency…
…none of which could have been accomplished if hawke was more of a blank slate
dao left me cold as far as the warden was concerned because they could be so personal. because companions had to react in a larger variety of ways and the warden’s greater agency could to force them away at any time meant they had less content for each other and everything was dedicated to the warden. they were richly-built, to be sure, but they felt like they only existed with the warden and in backstory. and because there was so much choice in the warden’s origin and in how players could handle that origin, there was no real emotional tie to it outside the player’s own head. in a triple-a cinematic videogame, having to rely on my own imagination for one aspect of the game but not at all for any others was inconsistent at best and jarring at worst.
it’s like playing a bethesda game. sure, you can do almost anything, but at the cost of real narrative cohesion and thus, to me, emotion. the only thing fallout 3 protags share is their backstory, and that’s one of the most memorable moments for most players.
the rising action in literature and cinema is characterized at its peak by struggles, by an inadequacy to accomplish goals. in dao, you couldn’t have an all that remains moment, or a sibling in the deep roads moment, because with all that danged choice there was no room for the emotional devastation of failure. sacrificing choice for emotion and cohesion isn’t something everyone wants in a game, i know, but to me, it’s absolutely vital.
tl;dr y’all have origins i have da2 dont take my shit okay but i luv u mommy B|

b-mommy:

ademska:

b-mommy:

“You’re not your warden”


NO YOU’RE WRONG!!!!!! D,: 

i’m never wrong about anything ever

We went back and changed it right before we saw this. 

You have some kind of filthy witch powers. 

i’m a dirty witch and i need to be punished

lol no i mean i get that some people really dig the more personal aspect, and i can see that, but what made da2 so amazing to me was a multitude of things like its rich characterization of companions and their interactions with each other, the the more structured narrative, the family ties, the tragic anders romance, the subtlety of the political circumstances in how they relate to hawke, hawke’s overall lack of agency…

…none of which could have been accomplished if hawke was more of a blank slate

dao left me cold as far as the warden was concerned because they could be so personal. because companions had to react in a larger variety of ways and the warden’s greater agency could to force them away at any time meant they had less content for each other and everything was dedicated to the warden. they were richly-built, to be sure, but they felt like they only existed with the warden and in backstory. and because there was so much choice in the warden’s origin and in how players could handle that origin, there was no real emotional tie to it outside the player’s own head. in a triple-a cinematic videogame, having to rely on my own imagination for one aspect of the game but not at all for any others was inconsistent at best and jarring at worst.

it’s like playing a bethesda game. sure, you can do almost anything, but at the cost of real narrative cohesion and thus, to me, emotion. the only thing fallout 3 protags share is their backstory, and that’s one of the most memorable moments for most players.

the rising action in literature and cinema is characterized at its peak by struggles, by an inadequacy to accomplish goals. in dao, you couldn’t have an all that remains moment, or a sibling in the deep roads moment, because with all that danged choice there was no room for the emotional devastation of failure. sacrificing choice for emotion and cohesion isn’t something everyone wants in a game, i know, but to me, it’s absolutely vital.

tl;dr y’all have origins i have da2 dont take my shit okay but i luv u mommy B|

b-mommy:
“You’re not your warden”
NO YOU’RE WRONG!!!!!! D,: 

i’m never wrong about anything ever

b-mommy:

“You’re not your warden”


NO YOU’RE WRONG!!!!!! D,: 

i’m never wrong about anything ever

b-mommy:

kris-annds:

trilliumg:

lacewhimsy:

eldritchdreams:

tapsterstavern:

paragadeshep:

mygamingconfessions:

Dragon Age: Origins will always be better than it’s sequel to me. The Warden was my character, the Warden was me. I am not Hawke, and BioWare can’t force me to be.

 Agreed.

This is also true for myself. 

The main thing that kills immersion into Hawke as a literal projection of the player into the game world (for me at least) is the inability to make some decisions that the Warden would have been able to make in Origins. Want to kill Petrice after Shepherding Wolves? Nope, we need her for plot-related reasons later. Want to kill Sebastian before he has a chance to raise an army against Kirkwall? Nope, sorry, but thanks for preordering the Signature Edition! My Warden would have slaughtered both of them before you could say “MAKER NO!”

That, and also the way Hawke just has a “character” already. There might be differences in how the lines are said, but all three choices portray the same sort of person: s/he is bold, s/he is agressive, s/he is immediately a leader. What if I don’t want to be so frigging in everyone’s face all of the time? /rant

There are many reasons I’ve stated in the past, but I honestly hope that DA3 is at least a hybrid of the first two. Otherwise I’m prolly outta here.

All of the above.
Do you know, I love my first PT, a female human mage warden so much that I feel weird playing that role again?  Even though she kept the default first name, I still love her to pieces.  She’s my warden.  I don’t feel anything similar for any of my Hawkes.
That said, DAII didn’t get everything entirely wrong.  As mentioned above, a hybrid of the two would probably be best.  Bioware claims to be learning from the criticisms of both hardcore fans and reviewers alike.  Let’s hope it’s all for a really bad ass DA3.

You kids <3

i suppose i can understand this mentality re: personal preference in the types of games you prefer playing, because you’re certainly allowed to prefer games that allow you to create a character to significant degree (tho don’t make the mistake of thinking dao’s possibilities were even close to infinite or even particularly diverse) vs games with a set protagonist, but if you’ve ever played and enjoyed a game with a predefined protagonist at all, how is da2 particularly inferior?
i swear i’m not picking a fight or declaring the above opinions invalid or anything, nor does the following really apply to any of you considering how polite you’ve been about it… but after spending months on bsn i just have to wonder why there’s such an outcry against the semi-subjective protagonist system of da2. is it because fanboys and girls felt shortchanged? they were never promised another origins-like game; they knew what they were getting as soon as voiced protag and single backstory was announced early on.
why is it so damn important to have a character be yours? you didn’t create the game, you didn’t write the rubric of dialogue possibilities or the setting to give the character context. you’re writing fanfiction, because everything was always bioware’s. you’re not your warden, and the warden isn’t yours. you just picked choices and interpreted them into a narrative.

b-mommy:

kris-annds:

trilliumg:

lacewhimsy:

eldritchdreams:

tapsterstavern:

paragadeshep:

mygamingconfessions:

Dragon Age: Origins will always be better than it’s sequel to me. The Warden was my character, the Warden was me. I am not Hawke, and BioWare can’t force me to be.

 Agreed.

This is also true for myself. 

The main thing that kills immersion into Hawke as a literal projection of the player into the game world (for me at least) is the inability to make some decisions that the Warden would have been able to make in Origins. Want to kill Petrice after Shepherding Wolves? Nope, we need her for plot-related reasons later. Want to kill Sebastian before he has a chance to raise an army against Kirkwall? Nope, sorry, but thanks for preordering the Signature Edition! My Warden would have slaughtered both of them before you could say “MAKER NO!”

That, and also the way Hawke just has a “character” already. There might be differences in how the lines are said, but all three choices portray the same sort of person: s/he is bold, s/he is agressive, s/he is immediately a leader. What if I don’t want to be so frigging in everyone’s face all of the time? /rant

There are many reasons I’ve stated in the past, but I honestly hope that DA3 is at least a hybrid of the first two. Otherwise I’m prolly outta here.

All of the above.

Do you know, I love my first PT, a female human mage warden so much that I feel weird playing that role again?  Even though she kept the default first name, I still love her to pieces.  She’s my warden.  I don’t feel anything similar for any of my Hawkes.

That said, DAII didn’t get everything entirely wrong.  As mentioned above, a hybrid of the two would probably be best.  Bioware claims to be learning from the criticisms of both hardcore fans and reviewers alike.  Let’s hope it’s all for a really bad ass DA3.

You kids <3

i suppose i can understand this mentality re: personal preference in the types of games you prefer playing, because you’re certainly allowed to prefer games that allow you to create a character to significant degree (tho don’t make the mistake of thinking dao’s possibilities were even close to infinite or even particularly diverse) vs games with a set protagonist, but if you’ve ever played and enjoyed a game with a predefined protagonist at all, how is da2 particularly inferior?

i swear i’m not picking a fight or declaring the above opinions invalid or anything, nor does the following really apply to any of you considering how polite you’ve been about it… but after spending months on bsn i just have to wonder why there’s such an outcry against the semi-subjective protagonist system of da2. is it because fanboys and girls felt shortchanged? they were never promised another origins-like game; they knew what they were getting as soon as voiced protag and single backstory was announced early on.

why is it so damn important to have a character be yours? you didn’t create the game, you didn’t write the rubric of dialogue possibilities or the setting to give the character context. you’re writing fanfiction, because everything was always bioware’s. you’re not your warden, and the warden isn’t yours. you just picked choices and interpreted them into a narrative.

lolbatty:
I will forever find women like Isabella repulsive and disgusting… so it doesn’t much matter who she’s with, feeding her to the Arishok is always the best option for me. LOL 
Though I do see it as reasonable that she and Fenris get together.. since she seems to gun for him pretty hard and Fenris seems to have a ‘you dont want to love me I am a lowly slave’ complex.  People who have little to no self worth are pretty easy to get into the sack a lot of the time.  Just her type. LOL
It’s ok though, it just means any ninny with enough patience could probably get into his pants as long as they were nice to him.  There is hope yet for you fangirls.. if only you existed in an imaginary video game world instead of reality.

'women like isabela', women who like sex and aren't ashamed of it? or do you want to elaborate on her negative qualities that you dislike so intensely?
i&#8217;m not being a bitch, i swear, i&#8217;m giving you the benefit of the doubt here. i have shit i&#8217;m doing today, and i don&#8217;t want to start a tumblr fight because i misunderstood you.
please tell me why you find &#8216;women like isabela&#8217; so repulsive so that i don&#8217;t have to assume the absolute worst here.

lolbatty:

I will forever find women like Isabella repulsive and disgusting… so it doesn’t much matter who she’s with, feeding her to the Arishok is always the best option for me. LOL 

Though I do see it as reasonable that she and Fenris get together.. since she seems to gun for him pretty hard and Fenris seems to have a ‘you dont want to love me I am a lowly slave’ complex.  People who have little to no self worth are pretty easy to get into the sack a lot of the time.  Just her type. LOL

It’s ok though, it just means any ninny with enough patience could probably get into his pants as long as they were nice to him.  There is hope yet for you fangirls.. if only you existed in an imaginary video game world instead of reality.

'women like isabela', women who like sex and aren't ashamed of it? or do you want to elaborate on her negative qualities that you dislike so intensely?

i’m not being a bitch, i swear, i’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here. i have shit i’m doing today, and i don’t want to start a tumblr fight because i misunderstood you.

please tell me why you find ‘women like isabela’ so repulsive so that i don’t have to assume the absolute worst here.

icicleman:

high0castle:

fugitivus:

anderfels:

i keep meaning to not reblobble these confessions things but i figure it’s a good start or sounding board for discussion that isn’t all black bar white text anonymous disembodied statement…! and i’ve always wanted to blah blah about this, so this is a good excuse. :D
actually, to be honest, i really was not into fenders in a big way for a long while. it was all hawke/anders and my blinders up and my focus completely on those two because they are really kind of perfect in every way, and i love them enormously, and as much as some hateships can be fun, i just did not see how fenris and anders could work together in any way. 
then again, i told myself, i always like to keep my mind open to possibilities. some writers have been capable of convincing me of the most implausible scenarios, just because of how they pull it off. since i write a lot of AUs (or, you know, only AUs, hahaha sob) i started to think of the pairing as a challenge, like, what would have to change in order for this to work? how much, how little, and all the other how(e)s. also the who’s, the what’s, the why’s… it was a little puzzle that i wanted to piece together, since some people had managed to write it where it did work, and while it wasn’t necessarily my cup of tea, it seemed like it might be a nice mix-up after writing so much hawke/anders. 
it was about when i realized fenris is the biggest cat of all time that i thought, oh, hey, this could work. just a little bit. you tweak this, you alter that, you change the circumstances but not the people… and it was fun, the totally different dynamic that i found while writing fenris and anders as opposed to writing hawke and anders. i loved both, just for two completely different reasons, and since i felt at the time i had exhausted a lot of my hawke/anders options the break and the change was a welcome one. it was fun when i never thought it would be. 
then again, i’m one of those people who will probably try anything once, just to see how it works out. hawke/anders is still…my all-time bullet-proof everything everything, i love them together so much. and in the game as it stands, it’s hard for me to outright hate-ship fenris and anders because of how intransigent and implacable and damn difficult they are. but i’m all about the what-ifs, those little shifts in what’s there already that alter everything. and i also just like liking stuff, sometimes too much for my own good. i’m not picky. i like to be sold!

some coherent thoughts. it is possible to like both! i’m never sure why people feel the need to make it one or the other…. fenris’s mouth does such funny things, exhibit a.

I’m so a ship-and-let-ship kind of fan. Goodness knows I ship things others definitely don’t (Nanders comes to mind, plus I ship Shepard/Toombs, which I’ve never seen anywhere). But this is one of those pairings I just can’t see without big changes to their characterization. And at that point, they’re not really the same Fenris and Anders anymore. They’re very clever dopplegangers with some of the same traits but also a fair number of differences.
Now, it could easily be argued that every writer puts their own spin on characters and thus no portrayal is fully accurate. That’s perfectly valid, I just find the changes that keep closer to canon more palatable than more drastic deviations. It’s all a matter of preference of course. Everyone else is welcome to like Fenders, it’s just not my bag.

i’ve got a bit of a headache, so this will be short. 
one of the things that makes this ship perfectly plausible to me is that you can rivalmance both as hawke and be a total douchebag yet they still love you. so, why can’t it work between them?
i also just love their dynamic—how they are basically the same person brought up in different circumstances and their stubbornness to see the other person’s views or how similar they can be.

now this i&#8217;ve got to reblog and rebut, because while i&#8217;m still sorting through my feelings on fenders (which are generally a big fat NO. unless certain authors are involved but hey at least i&#8217;m open?), the bit about the rivalmance just doesn&#8217;t ring true to me.
regardless of how you play hawke, the game does not allow hawke to turn anders over to the templars or kill him after he comes clean about justice (or at any point in the story pre-chantry), which means the confines of the character are such that hawke himself wouldn&#8217;t do that to him. a romance is pursuable with anders, and anders in part falls in love with hawke, because hawke sees anders at his most confused and tumultuous and:a) doesn&#8217;t betray him to death or the circleb) offers a judgment of anders&#8217; decision. he&#8217;s the first person to talk to anders about his decision without raising his sword to him, and given the sway friend vs rivalling has on anders&#8217; character by the end of the game, this judgment is especially important. anders latches onto both it and hawke and doesn&#8217;t let go.
while i obviously can&#8217;t give a guarantee on what fenris would have done in the same situation, we can make educated guesses. in the banter with sebastian, where the little shithead asks fenris to help him turn in anders and merrill, while fenris declines, he does it out of fear of retribution from hawke, not out of personal distaste.
and this is only hangups from anders&#8217; perspective. i&#8217;m not even touching the fact that to pursue a successful relationship with fenris, hawke has to faithfully and patiently work through fenris&#8217; myriad issues. a fenrismancing hawke must have deep feelings for him over years regardless of hawke&#8217;s political opinions. the entire point of the andersmance, meanwhile, is that anders can&#8217;t put the love of his life above his cause.
tl;dr, fenris is not hawke, and anders is not hawke.

icicleman:

high0castle:

fugitivus:

anderfels:

i keep meaning to not reblobble these confessions things but i figure it’s a good start or sounding board for discussion that isn’t all black bar white text anonymous disembodied statement…! and i’ve always wanted to blah blah about this, so this is a good excuse. :D

actually, to be honest, i really was not into fenders in a big way for a long while. it was all hawke/anders and my blinders up and my focus completely on those two because they are really kind of perfect in every way, and i love them enormously, and as much as some hateships can be fun, i just did not see how fenris and anders could work together in any way. 

then again, i told myself, i always like to keep my mind open to possibilities. some writers have been capable of convincing me of the most implausible scenarios, just because of how they pull it off. since i write a lot of AUs (or, you know, only AUs, hahaha sob) i started to think of the pairing as a challenge, like, what would have to change in order for this to work? how much, how little, and all the other how(e)s. also the who’s, the what’s, the why’s… it was a little puzzle that i wanted to piece together, since some people had managed to write it where it did work, and while it wasn’t necessarily my cup of tea, it seemed like it might be a nice mix-up after writing so much hawke/anders. 

it was about when i realized fenris is the biggest cat of all time that i thought, oh, hey, this could work. just a little bit. you tweak this, you alter that, you change the circumstances but not the people… and it was fun, the totally different dynamic that i found while writing fenris and anders as opposed to writing hawke and anders. i loved both, just for two completely different reasons, and since i felt at the time i had exhausted a lot of my hawke/anders options the break and the change was a welcome one. it was fun when i never thought it would be. 

then again, i’m one of those people who will probably try anything once, just to see how it works out. hawke/anders is still…my all-time bullet-proof everything everything, i love them together so much. and in the game as it stands, it’s hard for me to outright hate-ship fenris and anders because of how intransigent and implacable and damn difficult they are. but i’m all about the what-ifs, those little shifts in what’s there already that alter everything. and i also just like liking stuff, sometimes too much for my own good. i’m not picky. i like to be sold!

some coherent thoughts. it is possible to like both! i’m never sure why people feel the need to make it one or the other…. fenris’s mouth does such funny things, exhibit a.

I’m so a ship-and-let-ship kind of fan. Goodness knows I ship things others definitely don’t (Nanders comes to mind, plus I ship Shepard/Toombs, which I’ve never seen anywhere). But this is one of those pairings I just can’t see without big changes to their characterization. And at that point, they’re not really the same Fenris and Anders anymore. They’re very clever dopplegangers with some of the same traits but also a fair number of differences.

Now, it could easily be argued that every writer puts their own spin on characters and thus no portrayal is fully accurate. That’s perfectly valid, I just find the changes that keep closer to canon more palatable than more drastic deviations. It’s all a matter of preference of course. Everyone else is welcome to like Fenders, it’s just not my bag.

i’ve got a bit of a headache, so this will be short. 

one of the things that makes this ship perfectly plausible to me is that you can rivalmance both as hawke and be a total douchebag yet they still love you. so, why can’t it work between them?

i also just love their dynamic—how they are basically the same person brought up in different circumstances and their stubbornness to see the other person’s views or how similar they can be.

now this i’ve got to reblog and rebut, because while i’m still sorting through my feelings on fenders (which are generally a big fat NO. unless certain authors are involved but hey at least i’m open?), the bit about the rivalmance just doesn’t ring true to me.

regardless of how you play hawke, the game does not allow hawke to turn anders over to the templars or kill him after he comes clean about justice (or at any point in the story pre-chantry), which means the confines of the character are such that hawke himself wouldn’t do that to him. a romance is pursuable with anders, and anders in part falls in love with hawke, because hawke sees anders at his most confused and tumultuous and:
a) doesn’t betray him to death or the circle
b) offers a judgment of anders’ decision. he’s the first person to talk to anders about his decision without raising his sword to him, and given the sway friend vs rivalling has on anders’ character by the end of the game, this judgment is especially important. anders latches onto both it and hawke and doesn’t let go.

while i obviously can’t give a guarantee on what fenris would have done in the same situation, we can make educated guesses. in the banter with sebastian, where the little shithead asks fenris to help him turn in anders and merrill, while fenris declines, he does it out of fear of retribution from hawke, not out of personal distaste.

and this is only hangups from anders’ perspective. i’m not even touching the fact that to pursue a successful relationship with fenris, hawke has to faithfully and patiently work through fenris’ myriad issues. a fenrismancing hawke must have deep feelings for him over years regardless of hawke’s political opinions. the entire point of the andersmance, meanwhile, is that anders can’t put the love of his life above his cause.

tl;dr, fenris is not hawke, and anders is not hawke.

(via combefierce-deactivated20130613)

kassafrassa:

>find new armor

>oh cool it’s better than what i’m wearing now

>try it on

>OH HAWKE HONEY NO YOU CAN’T GO OUT IN PUBLIC WEARING THAT

>continue to wear slightly shittier armor to save hawke the embarrassment of looking like a dumbass in the other armor

NAW MAN HAWKE LOOKS GREAT, LIKE A BALLER i mean what are you even talking about, this is the pinnacle of fine orlesian fashions

he doesn’t look like the brawny paper towel man at all